• With: Allen West

    This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," August 19, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

    GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Tonight: Former congressman Allen West says President Obama is a dangerous threat to the existence of America! Why? Allen West is here to tell you in just a minute.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    RUSH LIMBAUGH, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: He and his party are the sole destroyers of the American health care system!

    BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'm going to keep doing everything in my power to make sure this law works as it's supposed to because in the United States of America, health insurance isn't a privilege, it's your right. And we're going to keep it that way.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The number one concern of Americans remains ObamaCare.

    LIMBAUGH: It is Obama and the Democrats have turned the American people, particularly when it comes to health care, into servants of government!

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The American people wanted health care reform because they wanted affordable care. And what we're seeing under this health care law is that the cost of care is actually going up.

    OBAMA: ... because in the United States of America, health insurance isn't a privilege, it's your right.

    SEN. RAND PAUL, R-KY: There are many conservatives like myself standing up and saying, Look, ObamaCare is going to be a disaster for the country.

    OBAMA: ... because in the United States of America, health insurance isn't a privilege, it's your right.

    PAUL: As I travel around Kentucky and around the country, people come up to me and they say, Stand firm, stand up, try to stop this monstrosity because it's going to be bad for the country.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can tell you there was a popular physician at my town hall said ObamaCare shouldn't go forward.

    LIMBAUGH: The fact of the matter is the vast majority of the American people oppose this plan! They don't want ObamaCare!

    OBAMA: I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure this law works as it's supposed to because in the United States of America, health insurance isn't a privilege, it's your right. And we're going to keep it that way.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    VAN SUSTEREN: Apparently, former congressman Allen West is not impressed with what the president said about health insurance being a right. He calls President Obama, quote, "a very dangerous threat to the existence of America."

    Congressman West joins us. Nice to see you, sir.

    ALLEN WEST, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR/FORMER FLA. CONGRESSMAN: It's a pleasure. Now, you got one thing wrong.

    VAN SUSTEREN: What's that?

    WEST: It's America is a constitutional republic. That was the entire sentence that I used. And that's a very important thing to understand because, first of all, we should not have a president that's demagogueing an entirely different group of people, the Republicans, to say that they want to actually hurt people just because they disagree with a policy.

    But when you have a president that is standing there saying that health care, health insurance, is a right -- when you go and you read the Declaration of Independence -- and I'm going to put on my little geeky political philosophy hat. Thomas Jefferson said that the inalienable rights that we have of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as individuals -- they come from the creator, and that goes back to natural law theory.

    He said that specifically that they don't come from man, and man makes up government. Now all of a sudden, the government believes that they're the ones that grant you your rights. Government can also take those rights away, which is why Jefferson said a government that is big enough to give you everything that you want is also big enough to take it away.

    And think about this, Greta. The last time we had a president talk about the American people as individuals having a right to a certain thing, it was back in about 1978, when Jimmy Carter said that every American had a right to own a home. And that was the Community Reinvestment Act.

    And you fast forward 30 years later to 2008, we had this incredible financial meltdown based upon the mortgage industry and government getting involved in that industry.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right, let me ask you about sort of the tone and the temperature of your words. Sometimes I get going, say things that I want to sort of dial back later. You say, though, he's a dangerous threat to the existence of America.

    Is that just Congressman Allen West sort of getting on a roll, or is that genuinely what you believe, that he's a dangerous threat to the existence of America?

    WEST: And I said, as a constitutional republic because once again...

    VAN SUSTEREN: What is -- tell me what you mean, "as -- as a"...

    WEST: As a constitutional republic because you have to look at the rule of law. You have to look at our founding documents. And when you have a president that is saying that, you know, a certain thing is a right that government is supposed to give to you, that goes against the founding premise of this country.

    As well, you know, I quoted in that Facebook post the book by Montesquieu, the spirit of the laws, that talked about the separation of powers and checks and balances.

    The president should not be able to delay certain parts of law. He should not be able to push away certain mandates of this cap on the out-of- pocket expenses because once a piece of legislation has passed through the House, has passed through the Senate, is signed into law by the president, you don't get to cherry pick it. And that's a threat to us...

    VAN SUSTEREN: How can he...

    WEST: ... as a constitutional republic when a president is starting to cherry pick law.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, that seems to be going on, I mean, quite -- quite routinely. I mean, there have been a number of things (INAUDIBLE) talk about the health care (INAUDIBLE) talking in a moment about all the delays that are coming up. But different things have been cherry picked. Like the employer mandate...

    WEST: Yes.

    VAN SUSTEREN: ... that's put off for a year. The cap on how much people...

    WEST: The cap on out-of-pocket...

    VAN SUSTEREN: On out-of-pocket expenses -- that -- that has been postponed. That was (INAUDIBLE)