And there's no other explanation other than the people in Washington telling the story had political motivations because the people on the ground are telling us what they lived through is completely different than what the president told the people about.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right, Gregory -- Gregory Hicks...
GRAHAM: Told America about.
VAN SUSTEREN: Gregory Hicks, who's number two, right below the ambassador in Libya...
GRAHAM: Yes, the number two.
VAN SUSTEREN: Why did -- why did he wait until March to come forward? What did (INAUDIBLE)
GRAHAM: People -- well, the same reason that everybody feels chilled. I've been asking for survivors to come forward, people who were involved, not just survivors, and every agency in the government is stonewalling. These guys are whistleblowers. They came forward out of conscience.
Greg Hicks knew that Chris Stevens was being thrown under the bus. Chris should have never been there. That's the new narrative. Well, they knew he was in Benghazi. So the people who knew Chris Stevens, who lived through this attack, believe that what they went through has been misrepresented.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Well, there's a -- there's a note from the State Department, one of my notes, saying that Gregory Hicks has an axe to grind against the State Department. That's why he's doing this now.
GRAHAM: Well, I think Greg Hicks is going to tell a story consistent with what we now know to be the truth. And the only axe to grind I think anybody has here, including me, is that you can't let your government lie to you. You have four Americans died, and the stories told by the highest levels of our government about how they died was a bunch of garbage.
VAN SUSTEREN: We will go to the hearing Wednesday and watch it and monitor it.
GRAHAM: And there's more coming.
VAN SUSTEREN: Thank you, sir. Nice to see you, senator.
GRAHAM: Thank you.