• With: Newt Gingrich

    And then part of it is that Obama's an attractive person. This is -- this is a pleasant person with a nice family, with a good smile, that people really wanted to have succeed. I mean, I think a lot of Americans were very proud to have elected an African-American president, thought that it said something about the nature of America, that we are, in fact, a truly inclusive country, and they really wanted him to succeed. And I think it hurts them to say, You know, I just can't vote for you again.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Tonight, news out of Peru, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton traveling, and she did a number of interviews with different news organizations, and she said, essentially -- well, she didn't say essentially, she did say the buck stops with here, meaning with her about what happened in Benghazi. You laugh.

    GINGRICH: Well, on two levels. First of all, the buck stops with the president. That was Harry Truman's line. And she lost the nomination. She's not president.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Meaning she's giving -- President Obama should be giving that line? Is that what you're saying?

    GINGRICH: Well, yes, it is the president's line. But secondly, you know, you have to admire the Clintons. Bill and Hillary Clinton have done more to help reelect Barack Obama than Barack Obama has. The turning point in this campaign at the convention was Bill Clinton's speech.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Why? Why is he doing that? Why is he doing that? Because if you go back to '08, it was a rather nasty contest between them. And in fact, I think President Bill Clinton -- I don't know if he was called a racist at one point, but he certainly felt like he was being called that.

    GINGRICH: Look, I think, first of all, Bill Clinton is the best political performer of our generation. And something clicks in and takes over when he gets on the field. He's like a great quarterback, like watching Robert Griffin III run for 76 yards for a touchdown.

    VAN SUSTEREN: That was good.

    GINGRICH: And you know, that was a great moment in Redskins history, and in fact, in NFL history. And when Bill Clinton gets on a stage, he is just remarkable.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, what about his wife, though? I mean, does she -- I mean, like...

    GINGRICH: She is a...

    VAN SUSTEREN: Why is she -- why -- I mean, maybe the buck does stop with her on this.

    GINGRICH: Well, first of all, she's a team player. She has been Obama's Secretary of State for almost four years. As a team player -- and this is -- I think this is who she's always been. She's going to take a bullet for the team.

    What is disgraceful is the degree to which the president and the vice president are prepared to be dishonest with the American people and hide. And I think tomorrow night'll be interesting to watch. The president has a month of dishonesty to answer for in Benghazi. For a solid month, he has said things that are not true. The vice president has said things that are not true. And I...

    VAN SUSTEREN: And meanwhile calling Romney a liar!

    GINGRICH: Right.

    VAN SUSTEREN: I mean, that's the irony of it.

    GINGRICH: It's the nature of the business to say, you know, I don't know why you're lying about it being daytime when we all know that it's nighttime, even if you're saying it in the middle of the day. And if you do it well enough, (INAUDIBLE) will decide, Gee, why is he lying about it being nighttime?

    I mean, you know, I think that's just -- they're very good at this. But I think in the end, facts matter. And I think in the end, the problem that Obama has is the facts of unemployment matter, the facts of gasoline prices matter, the facts of Benghazi matter, and the facts of Big Bird matter. And the facts are you don't want to borrow money from the Chinese to prop up government programs you can't afford.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Should President Obama have addressed the nation on what happened in Benghazi in all the sort of -- I mean, sort of the crazy story about the protests and the videos that went on? The event happened on the 11th of September. Even on the 18th, he's on David Letterman, still pushing the video and the protest.

    GINGRICH: It's worse than that! He went to the United Nations and I think he mentions the video six times in his speech to the United Nations. This is a calculated, methodical act of dishonesty. President Obama cannot bring himself to tell the truth about radical Islam, even when it is killing Americans. I find it very...

    VAN SUSTEREN: Why? Why? Why do you -- I mean...

    GINGRICH: Well, you'd have to ask him why. That's a...

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    VAN SUSTEREN: He doesn't come here.

    GINGRICH: That's a psychological question. I think you go back and read his Cairo speech. You read what he said when the Koran was being burned. You read what he says about this video. You read what he said about the major who killed people -- Callista and I did a movie, "America at Risk," in which we walked right through the whole Fort Hood killing.

    The Obama administration has never once admitted that that was an act of Islamic radicalism.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Why?

    GINGRICH: Because it violates their -- because their model is that killing bin Laden ended the game. And therefore, it's over. And if you say to them, Well, gee, wasn't that a pretty big al Qaeda team in Benghazi, that disrupts all of the -- all of their arguments. And it's a little bit of a mistake that George W. Bush made when he was on the aircraft carrier with "mission accomplished."

    This is a deeper, harder war that is going to go on for maybe 50 or 70 years. There are people out there who hate us. They want to destroy us. We can say we're going to give up the war. That's fine. The war may not give us up.

    And I think that Obama doesn't want to deal with that. His friends on the left can't bring themselves to even talk about it. And the result is they try to cut deals with the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, which is basically dedicated to Islamist supremacy.

    VAN SUSTEREN: You debated Governor Romney. People say, quote, "He's a good debater." I don't know what that means. But what do you expect out of him tomorrow night? I mean, the...

    GINGRICH: Well -- well...

    VAN SUSTEREN: I mean, usually, whoever wins is considered a good debater (INAUDIBLE).

    GINGRICH: Callista was very prescient about this. She said -- because I debated Mitt a lot, and I think most of the debates, I won. The two debates that mattered in Florida, he had done his homework. He had changed his style. He came in on offense. He stayed on offense. I could not knock him off his track.

    And she said before the first debate, if he comes in and is as aggressive and as clear with Obama as he was with Newt, he's going to win. Now, what neither she nor I expected was that Obama wouldn't show up. I mean, if you go back and look at that debate, the lack of energy, the lack of focus, the lack of preparation on Obama's part was beyond anybody's...

    VAN SUSTEREN: Why do you think he did that?

    GINGRICH: ... wildest...

    VAN SUSTEREN: I mean, he's perfectly capable of being good on his feet and being a -- you know, a strong advocate. What happened to him?

    GINGRICH: I think he spent four years in the cocoon of the White House. He spent four years with people slavishly telling him, You're doing great, you're brilliant, you're wonderful, you're magnificent, that last speech was so fabulous.