This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," September 25, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Former presidential candidate and Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich joins us. Good evening, sir.
NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER/FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Good to be with you.
VAN SUSTEREN: You know, it's pretty amazing when you have ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and even "Time" magazine with the headline, Obama comes to New York for Barbara Walters and sort of U.N." why isn't he meeting with anybody?
GINGRICH: I think it's a comment on the depth of his arrogance. I think this is a person that doesn't actually care what the world thinks, doesn't actually care what the American people thinks. And if he gets reelected, he'll be right and the rest of us will be wrong. I mean, his view his is all about a cynical, calculated approach. "The View" gets him more votes than meeting with 10 or 15 world leaders.
And the fact that he's not doing his job is irrelevant. You have to divide it into two parts. There's winning the office and there is actually being president. He's clearly said, If I can win the office, I don't care what the rest of you think.
And let me say, what should really deeply bother Americans is how does all this play out in the rest of the world? Imagine you were an ambassador trying to explain to the president of Egypt or the president of China or the president of Germany, the chancellor of Germany, You know, the president can't meet with you because there's no time on his schedule because he has to go do "The View."
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, and actually, as a matter of fact, his schedule is open this week. I mean, he could -- he could still -- he could still do "The View" and meet with these people. It's not like that -- it's not like that -- his schedule is -- is so compressed this week. He does have time.
GINGRICH: Well, but you have to wonder what he's doing. I mean, I'm assuming there's some rhythm to Barack Obama that the rest of us don't understand, whether he needs large amounts of rest, whether he needs to go play basketball for a while. I don't, you know, watch ESPN. I mean, I don't quite know what his rhythms are.
But this is a guy who's a brilliant performer as an orator, who may well, get reelected at the present date, and who, frankly, happens to be a partial sub -- part-time president. I mean, he really is a lot like the substitute referees in the sense that he's not a real president.
I mean, he doesn't do any of the things presidents do. He doesn't worry about any of the things presidents do. But he has the White House. He has enormous power. He'll go down in history as president. And I suspect he's pretty contemptuous of the rest of us.
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, you know, there -- there are some women who oftentimes -- we oftentimes think that we do the men's work, and believe it or not. Did you know that? Were you aware of the fact that...
GINGRICH: Callista has actually suggested to me that this model exists.
VAN SUSTEREN: OK. All right. Well, you look at Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's schedule this week. She met with the president of Libya. She's not the president. The president -- President Obama is. She met the president of Egypt, the president of Yemen. She is meeting this week -- she found in her schedule time for the prime minister, of Netanyahu, and at the same time, she also met with foreign ministers, which are her -- are her counterparts in the government. She found time in her busy schedule to meet these people.
GINGRICH: Well, but there's a huge difference. Hillary Clinton is a serious person. Barack Obama is an ambitious person. They're very different personalities. Hillary Clinton actually gets up every day thinking about public policy. Barack Obama gets up every day thinking about Barack Obama. I mean, they're very different approaches to life.
And I think those of us who are his critics need to get over it and understand, this is who is president. This is a man who in the age of false celebrity-hood is sort of the perfect president because he's a false president. He's a guy who doesn't do the president's job. He's had 39 percent of the briefings on intelligence, the daily briefings. He goes to Las Vegas while there's an attack on Benghazi.
VAN SUSTEREN: Actually, I give him a pass on that because I now am (INAUDIBLE) ever want terrorists to think that you have disrupted that much, that you get that much effect on the president. I am critical of the fact that he's not meeting with presidents, which would be routine...
GINGRICH: Yes, well...
VAN SUSTEREN: ... in New York this week.
GINGRICH: Explain this, then.
VAN SUSTEREN: OK.
GINGRICH: For 10 days after the Benghazi attack, the Obama administration denied it was a terrorist attack.
VAN SUSTEREN: That's a different issue.
VAN SUSTEREN: That is a profoundly different issue.
GINGRICH: No. But after Carney that morning said, OK, everybody now concedes it's a terrorist attack, the same afternoon, Obama went back to the, Oh, it's really caused by the film. I think it's because he wasn't coordinating.
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, with -- he was talking about the film today, which was sort of interesting. He's talking about the video before the U.N. in his speech and talking about how, you know, we don't insult -- we should not tolerate insulting religions, yet there was no mention of the fact that Ahmadinejad is going to be speaking tomorrow on the holiest day of the Jewish faith, Yom Kippur, so that he spoke about the insult to the Muslim world with this video, but he neglected to talk about the insult to Jews, while he's dissing the prime minister of Israel.
GINGRICH: Well, it's worse -- from an American perspective, it's worse than that. Obama spent I think three paragraphs on a nutcake film that nobody had seen. Meanwhile, in the same city as Cardinal Dolan, who has openly said the Obama administration's waging war on the Catholic church.
Now, why is Obama fixated on appeasing Muslims while attacking Catholics? And why is that not a topic that ought to be on every network talk show? I mean, here's a president who is a one-sided apologist for Islamic extremists while he is attacking Christianity in his own country! It's pretty bizarre.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right, let me get back to meeting with these presidents because I -- I actually think this is serious, in -- in that -- that so many things going on in the world as that what you get so much done when you have relationships with people, whether you want to have a relation with Mubarak and you want to be able to tell him to get out of office faster in Egypt, or if you wanted to somehow have developed a relationship over the years with the president of Syria so you can tell him to get out quickly -- if you don't meet with these people, you cannot develop that sort of relationship, which has -- may have profound importance as we sort of march through history.
GINGRICH: Be sure to talk to John Boehner or Mitch McConnell or Eric Cantor. There's no evidence that Barack Obama wants to have a relationship with anybody except those who are sycophantically his supporters. There's no sign he wants to...
VAN SUSTEREN: But you can't get anything done unless...
VAN SUSTEREN: I mean, you know, you may not like them, you know -- you know, he may not like the Republicans on Capitol Hill and they may not like him, but you've still got to have some relationship with them...
VAN SUSTEREN: ... to attempt to get something done.
GINGRICH: Greta, I don't want to be a naysayer here, but he's not getting anything done. I'll give you an example. He said today grandly the war will be over in Afghanistan by 2014. That's just a falsehood. Now, I think he believes it, but it's a total falsehood.
What he really means to say is the United States is going to cut and run in Afghanistan by 2014, whether you like it or not, and if the war continues, which it will, it'll be without us.