• With: Rep. Jeb Hensarling

    Number one, dealing with this red tape burden to make sure that anything that has a significant impact on the economy has to be approved by the elected Congress, as opposed to the unelected bureaucracy. Tax code -- fundamental tax code to bring down rates at 10 and 25 percent on a deficit- neutral basis by getting rid of all the underbrush of the loopholes and special interest deductions.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, you know, it's interesting that...

    HENSARLING: Getting rid of the president's health care plan would be huge in creating jobs.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, you raise an interesting question. Even, like, Bowles-Simpson talked about getting rid of the tax code, those 3,300 earmarks, and that was -- that -- I mean, first of all, the Bowles-Simpson was outsourcing because Congress didn't do its job -- everybody outsourcing it to them. But then it was rejected. I mean, nothing ever does get done.

    But I recommend a book to you. Senator Tom Coburn has written a book called "The Debt Bomb," which talks about all the gridlock in Washington and it'll make everyone's hair stand on end. But anyway, I'm going to take the last word on that, Congressman. Thank you, sir. And good luck.

    HENSARLING: Thank you. Appreciate it.