• With: Newt Gingrich

    GINGRICH: Well, look, I think the general policies we have on national security, on taxes, on job creation -- there are a lot of areas where we can appeal to people beyond sexual orientation.

    If the only issue they vote on is gay marriage, then probably they're going to feel uncomfortable because I believe marriage is between a man and a woman and I am committed to the classic Christian concept of what a marriage is.

    But that question is, if that's the only issue they vote on, that's one thing. If it's one of a number of issues -- you know, again, you look around the country, this is the worst economy and unemployment since the Great Depression.

    Gallup indicated that the real number for unemployed/underemployed and dropped out of work is 19 percent. We haven't seen anything like that since the Great Depression. There are a lot of folks who are going to look at other issues and say, Well, we'll argue about those next time. This time, I want somebody who's going to help create jobs.

    VAN SUSTEREN: How about if you're in the inner city, and nobody's even bothered to go into these -- really, these horrible neighborhoods of 25 percent unemployment, or 30 percent, to even campaign? You know, how do you get those votes? I mean, how -- I mean, if no one's reaching out to the people in those communities and actually actively campaigning, you know, how can you get that voter? How can you convince those people that, you know, you're going to change their lives?

    GINGRICH: I think I was the first Republican candidate to campaign in an African-American church in Columbia, South Carolina. I'm very eagerly talking with a number of African-American leaders, and I'm convinced that when you have 43 percent black teenage unemployment, there are a lot of church leaders or a lot of neighborhoods, there are a lot of folks who want to work with you.

    You talk to African-American congressmen like Tim Scott, Allen West, they'll tell you that they believe there's a real opportunity for Republicans to reach out. Herman Cain is a very strong supporter of mine. I've worked for years with Michael Steele. J.C. Watts is a very strong supporter of mine.

    I think you can make a case I've had a more methodical effort to include African-Americans in my campaign than any other Republican has. And I think that's a part of this that I'm very proud of.

    Kiron Skinner, for example, professor at Carnegie-Mellon, leading African-American intellectual, is very actively for my campaign. Thomas Sowell has actually written two columns now endorsing me. So I do think there are a number of people that give us a much broader reach than some of the other candidates.

    VAN SUSTEREN: You know, I know that your time is limited. Every candidate's time is limited. But I have yet to -- I've been sort of monitoring this. I haven't seen one Republican candidate and I have not seen President Obama go into these inner cities in the last two years and talk to these people in the inner cities whose unemployment rate is so dreadfully high and have that conversation. And they're just -- they're not going to the town hall meetings. They're not watching cable news. And they really are sort of excluded from the process.

    GINGRICH: Why don't you come with me and let's do that? You know, when I was speaker of the House, we had town hall meetings in Washington, D.C. I think I'm the only speaker to go and have town hall meetings in Washington, in local schools, inviting local neighborhoods to come and talk. It worked very well. You can ask Donna Brazile, who was part of it. It was very effective program. And I think people felt that there were things we did that helped to improve the economy of the District of Columbia that had a genuine direct effect on people's lives.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right, Time magazine reporting tonight that Representative Ron Paul's campaign has, quote, "sent discrete signals to camp Romney that the key to Paul's shot can be had for the right price."

    Any thoughts on that quote from Time magazine?


    GINGRICH: I have no idea! But the way you just read it, it strikes me as probably true. I mean, I don't know what "right price" means, whether that's a policy question or a personnel question, or you know, having him over for lunch some Sunday. I mean, who knows.

    But conceivably -- Congressman Paul's indicated a pretty good bit of reasonableness this year. Maybe he has decided that he wants to help make Romney inevitable. Certainly, Ron Paul's endorsement would be a huge boost to Governor Romney. It'll be interesting to see exactly what Governor Romney agreed to get that.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right, you notice I didn't ask the question of whether you're going to get out. I've heard your answer, so I'm not going to bore you to death and...

    GINGRICH: I'm proud of you.

    VAN SUSTEREN: ... ask that question. But I am curious...

    GINGRICH: I was very proud of you.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Yes, I know. This conversation that you say that's going to happen sometime in June -- explain -- what is -- I mean, who's going to be there at this conversation? And how is it going to unfold?

    GINGRICH: Look, I think the American people will be. The key question is simple. Can Romney actually win the nomination on his own by the end of the primaries, Or does he fall short? If he falls 30, 40, 50 votes short, he'll get the nomination.

    But if he's 150 or 200 votes short, I think it's very possible you're going to have a wide-open convention. That would start literally a consideration in late June. There's 60 days before the convention actually occurs. I think it would be the first electronic conversation we've ever had, and you really would have a people's convention in many ways, with an amazing amount of interest, an amazing amount of involvement.

    So we don't know yet. I mean, I think the odds are probably even money. Certainly, it looks like Governor Romney is having a much harder time locking down the nomination than they thought they would. And I think that we'll have to wait and see how it evolves.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right, you're in Illinois. Do you intend to dispatch your wife to Wisconsin, her home state, to -- because that's a very competitive and a very important state. Is she going to lead the campaign for you there?

    GINGRICH: Greta, you know Callista very well. The idea that I would dispatch her anywhere is hopeless. I am going to ask her if she'd be willing to go and campaign in her home state, and I think she's probably going to. And I think she'll be very effective. And I have a son-in-law, Paul Lubbers, who's from Sheboygan, and I'm going to ask him. But I'm not able to dispatch either of them because I lack dispatching power.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, here's a tip. No one wins the Wisconsin primary without wearing a cheesehead. So good luck!

    GINGRICH: Good luck getting that on Callista. You know, I might wear one. There's no hope that she will.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Anyway, Mr. Speaker, thank you, sir.

    GINGRICH: Come to Wisconsin with us.

    VAN SUSTEREN: I might.

    GINGRICH: Take care.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Thank you, sir.