• Special Guests: Newt Gingrich

    This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," January 19, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

    GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich is riding a political roller coaster today. He picked up an endorsement from former rival Governor Rick Perry, but he's also facing sharp accusations from an ex-wife. Speaker Gingrich joins us from Charleston.

    Good evening, sir.

    NEWT GINGRICH, GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Good to be with you, Greta.

    VAN SUSTEREN: And since you just joined us, I'll tell you, in all fairness, that we started with that exchange you had with John King, and you hardly left any skin on him when you were finished with it, that back and forth.

    But I'm curious, in all seriousness, is there any appropriate time in your mind that you be asked that question, you know, about your ex-wife?

    GINGRICH: Look...

    VAN SUSTEREN: She's going on television. She's making some accusation. Is it a fair question? And if so, when should it be asked of you?

    GINGRICH: Sure, look -- look, if voters ask it or if you get asked it in a normal press conference, you just answer it because you're running for president and you owe people a candid answer. You don't particularly want to get in fights that involve 20-year-old incidents.

    You know, it wasn't true, and I'm happy to say it wasn't true. And we have five or six people who know us at the time, all of whom are willing to say it's not true. And we offered those to the media.

    I just thought to open a national presidential debate at that kind of personal level, with such nonsense -- and the audience -- you could tell the audience agreed totally that it was just nonsense. We have big things in this country, jobs, balancing the budget, defending America, reestablishing American values, economic growth, lots of things to talk about other than that.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Well, I'm -- I'm actually -- I'm always concerned about the fairness aspect of this stuff, and what caught my attention, besides the fact that you -- John King, my old colleague, hardly had any skin left on him -- was -- was the -- you said that you had offered these people to ABC. And I was only going to ask you one question about it, but I heard you say that. And I'm curious, I mean, was ABC simply unwilling to talk to the people to hear what they had to say? Because that's obviously an important issue.

    GINGRICH: Well, after a great deal of conversation, they finally agreed to take my two daughters, who you know, Kathy Lubbers and Jackie Cushman, and they are going to appear on the show tonight. I think they're doing "Good Morning America" tomorrow. But it was only after a great deal of conversation.

    We have a number of other people who were personal friends, eyewitnesses at the time. They weren't interested. So you end up on one of these things where, you know, you don't want to go back and relive some kind of deep personal problems, knowing that each party had very different memories of 15 years ago.

    And you just live it out. You try to smile and move on. But I thought it was a bit much to have it planted right in the middle of a presidential debate, as the very first question. So I hope I reacted appropriately. I certainly reacted the way I felt, and apparently, the way the people of South Carolina felt.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Now to the election. Do you have any idea -- what's your estimate how many people are undecided? What's the percentage?

    GINGRICH: Oh, I suspect there's still about 10 or 15 percent undecided, and another 10 or 15 percent who are leaning but could switch between now and Saturday. I mean, people are paying real attention. They're looking at things.

    You've seen a very dramatic change in the polls this week. I think in four days' time, I jumped 11 points, for example. Governor Romney's come down a little bit. And so you've seen a lot of turmoil in that sense. And I think that it really seemed to start Monday night with the debate, and then, frankly, when Governor Palin said that she would vote for me if she was here, and then when Rush Limbaugh spent several hours reviewing the debate. Each of these things built more momentum.

    We were thrilled today to have Governor Perry, who's a great friend of ours, decide that he would endorse me. He didn't have to do that. It was just a great moment. I think that sends another signal. The speaker of the house, Bobby Harrell, has endorsed me. Tomorrow, I'm going to be introduced at the Yorktown, the aircraft carrier, by General Livingston, who's a Congressional Medal of Honor winner and a very, very famous South Carolinian, and that's another step in the right direction.

    So we're getting a lot of folks coming on board right now, and I think we have a very good chance to win on Saturday. And that, of course, would be a real earthquake in this race in a 10-day period. Nobody, I think, thought coming down here from New Hampshire that I was likely to win.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Well, during the course of the debate, I got an e-mail from Carl Cameron that your tax return went up on the Web, so immediately, I nabbed it. I figured out the math.

    (LAUGHTER)

    VAN SUSTEREN: And it's about -- it's a little bit about 32 percent for the year 2010. But I wondered, because one of the oldest tricks in the books is if you release one, you know, it's, like, that may be enough to satisfy everyone. But in order for me to sort of understand your finances, I need several years. Are you willing to release 2009 and 2008 so that we can take a look at this?

    GINGRICH: Look, we're going to release 2011 as soon as we've got it put together, and I'm not going to go beyond that at this moment. I mean, Governor Romney hasn't released anything yet.

    VAN SUSTEREN: No, I understand that, but -- but...

    GINGRICH: So I'm well ahead of him and -- right.

    VAN SUSTEREN: But I understand that, but it's sort of -- you know, the -- I mean, like, you got out ahead of him with the one year, but in some ways, when you did the one year, I immediately became curious about the two years preceding. Are you telling me those years will not be released?

    GINGRICH: I knew you would. No, I knew you would be, and eventually, we'll get around to doing all that. But we set the standard. We have been more open than any other candidate in this race. And I think we set the right standard for openness. Anyone who wants to can go to Newt.org. We filed both our charitable contributions through the...

    VAN SUSTEREN: I got this...

    GINGRICH: ... small foundation we created...

    VAN SUSTEREN: I got 2010. 2010...

    GINGRICH: And...

    VAN SUSTEREN: 2010 I got. 2010 I got. Everybody's got it. It's on the Internet. We all got that one now.

    GINGRICH: Anybody who wants to can see that, and we'll move on beyond that. But we've started in good faith, and I look forward to having Governor -- you know, I'd be happy if Governor Romney just released one year tomorrow. I don't have any evidence tonight he's going to. He's not even sure he's going to ever release anything.

    VAN SUSTEREN: What's it like backstage with you and Governor -- Governor Romney and Senator Santorum? Right before the debate, are you guys kept separate or are you together and talk or...

    GINGRICH: No, we chat.

    VAN SUSTEREN: ... with Congressman Ron Paul?

    GINGRICH: Well, we chat for a couple of minutes. I mean, we're all - - we all go to our own green rooms. We all get ready. We all talk to our staffs and think it through. But we get together for a few minutes. We also talk a little bit during the breaks.

    You know, it's a little strange this week because we went from six to four in one week, and all of a sudden, it's a lot more intimate group than it used to be. But we also know each other better. I think this was our 16th debate, so we've been together a fair amount by now.