• With: Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney

    This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," September 13, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

    GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: He has no regrets and he's making no apologies. Former Vice President Dick Cheney is getting a lot of attention with his candid new book, "In My Time: A Personal and Political Memoir." Vice President Cheney wrote the book with the help of his daughter, Liz. They both went "On the Record."


    VAN SUSTEREN: You both worked together on this, but this is hardly the first time you two are working together.

    DICK CHENEY, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: No, Liz helped me get elected when she was about -- what were you when I ran for Congress first time, 10, 12 years old?



    LIZ CHENEY: You keep getting that wrong.

    DICK CHENEY: No, she's been involved in all my campaigns. She actually ran the search in -- when I was in charge of finding a vice president for George Bush, Liz was my chief of staff person on that whole process, so we've done a lot of things together.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Is he easy to work with or not?

    LIZ CHENEY: He's great to work with. And this was just a tremendous project, to be able to spend such intense time with your dad hearing about his life.

    DICK CHENEY: Listening to my old war stories. It's a rare treat to get a child who will sit and listen to all of that.

    VAN SUSTEREN: It is a different description in the book from what Mary said. She describes one opportunity working with you nine days of hell when she campaigned with you in 2000. A little different.

    DICK CHENEY: Yes. That wasn't that I was hard to work for, but rather stuff happened. It began with campaign where I made a speech on the complexities of bond finance and to build schools to a roomful of third kidders in Florida. I was a mismatch between the speech and the audience. That happened every once in a while. It took a few days to get on track when I first started campaigning again.

    VAN SUSTEREN: You have no idea how lucky you are because I saw in the book that you got dragged into a polka dance campaign in Illinois. We looked for that video.

    DICK CHENEY: You can't find it.

    VAN SUSTEREN: If you were in high school it would have ruined your life.


    DICK CHENEY: I'm not a good dancer I'm just fortunate it didn't show up in the book.

    VAN SUSTEREN: We found four, five seconds.

    LIZ CHENEY: It was worth seeing. It shows you what you have to do on the campaign trail, totally unexpected.

    DICK CHENEY: So you dance the polka.

    VAN SUSTEREN: We walked through protesters today. And they said "Arrest Dick Cheney, War Criminal.'

    LIZ CHENEY: It makes me mad. I think that in politics, people are going to disagree. And clearly, a lot of the policies that my dad has been involved in are once that are controversial. But one of the reasons I'm glad he decided to write the book was to layout the reasons behind the policies. You hope you can have a debate about the policies and people will read it and say, I still don't agree, but now I understand why they did it.

    I think most people who read it hopefully will come to understand the wisdom of the decisions. That's the kind of debate you want. There will be folks yelling and screaming part of that is the way our system works. I don't think they make as important contribution to the system and country as those who debate on substance.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Does it bother you the war criminal signs and posters?

    DICK CHENEY: No. I spent time at the University of Wisconsin in my youth as a student in the days when there was a lot of disruption and demonstration and violence on campuses across America. I think what we see today is pretty tame.

    VAN SUSTEREN: People do talk about today as if it is so rough and everything. Going back through your career, your book, it has always been a rough -- it is a contact sport, politics.

    DICK CHENEY: It is.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Any regrets?

    DICK CHENEY: No. I have loved every minute of it. I started out I was going to be an academic, wanted to be a professor, came to Washington to stay 12 months and it stretched into more than 40 years. Enormous privilege to have the opportunity to serve to get to do the things I've been able to do, the people I've worked with, and the issues we had to grapple with.

    Some were pretty tough -- being secretary of defense and responsible for in those days four million employees and troops in the department of defense, Desert Storm, sending half a million troops to the gulf. Or the events of 9/11 and the aftermath as we put in place policies to collect intelligence we needed to keep the country safe. A lot of criticism I get these days relates to that period after 9/11. I came to grips with that a long time ago. I believe deeply in what we did.

    VAN SUSTEREN: The most controversial course is the enhanced interrogation. I'm curious, but obviously I know that you supported it or you wouldn't have gone along with it and still backing it. I'm curious, do you worry let's say that it ever develops on the streets of Washington where someone gets picked up for a crime, are you worried it is taken behind war area and into the domestic area?

    DICK CHENEY: I think on enhanced interrogation the president, and properly so, was very, very careful and very, very insistent upon safeguards that would make we didn't interfere with any individuals legitimate constitutional rights.

    When we got into enhanced interrogation, waterboarding, that's the one held out as the rough stuff, that was done on three people, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed primarily the man who among other things responsible probably for the murder of Daniel pearl "Wall Street Journal" reporter who was beheaded. And claimed himself and there's no reason to doubt it, that he was the man behind 9/11. He killed 3,000 Americans on that day.

    He was subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques. But it was done only after the Justice Department signed off on it. After the director of the CIA approved the particular program is applied to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. And the president signed off on the policy, the National Security Council signed off and the justice department handed down a ruling saying this was not torture. So we were very careful not to get into a situation where there was a danger that some Americans are going to be arrested on the street and subjected to that kind of treatment.

    VAN SUSTEREN: You don't worry in the next administration or the next 20 years or something there is going to be some slippery slope that was accepted now will be used beyond that?

    DICK CHENEY: I don't think so.

    Our concern, Greta, was on the morning after 9/11 that when -- and the president was very strong in this as well, that we were not ever going to let that happen again on our watch. And we were going to do whatever we had to do by way of putting together a policy that was effective in protecting and safeguarding the American people that's what we did and it worked.