• With: Joe Rago, Bret Stephens, Kim Strassel, Mary Anastasia O'Grady, Dorothy Rabinowitz

    You know, Spitzer is saying he never did anything wrong.

    (CROSSTALK)

    GIGOT: And never had anything against anything. He was all fine and --

    (LAUGHTER)

    O'GRADY: Right. We know he lied in the 1990s about his campaign financing. In 2007, his staff went after Joe Bruno. And --

    GIGOT: Republican opponent and -- and leaked stuff from the police --

    O'GRADY: Yeah. Then --

    GIGOT: -- investigation.

    O'GRADY: -- he denied that. Then, with the Wall Street problem, I mean, here, really went after the scalps of the powerful people on Wall Street. Then he used the press to basically try them, rather than doing it properly through the attorney general channels.

    GIGOT: Kim, when you were covering the New York, you had some personal experience dealing with Mr. Spitzer. What kind of a political personality do you think he is?

    STRASSEL: Well, he is a bit thuggish. You've seen it certainly in the comments. You've had people like John Whitehead -- you know, John Whitehead, very respected, come out and say --

    (CROSSTALK)

    GIGOT: Former Goldman Sachs chairman.

    STRASSEL: Right. Say that Eliot Spitzer said he was going to come after him and that he would pay dearly for defending Ken Langone (ph), another businessman, in the pages of our newspaper. I once spoke to Mr. Spitzer, and he in essence called me not a very polite name myself. So I know this is how he operates.

    GIGOT: You use the phrase on the air.

    STRASSEL: Yeah, we are a family network here, yeah.

    GIGOT: Exactly.

    (LAUGHTER)

    STRASSEL: But these politicians are very clever because had ask forgiveness, which, as Dorothy said, puts the burden on voters that, as charitable voters, they somehow deserver a second chance. What they ought to be saying, because it is what they are asking, is trust me again. Despite the fact I broke the law and I lied and I misused my power and abused everything, this time I won't do it. When you put it that way, it is much harder to think they should be re-elected.

    (LAUGHTER)

    GIGOT: Dorothy, is there something particular here about New York that this -- these folks are coming to the fore here?

    RABINOWITZ: Oh, yes. Oh, yes. I was watching those people gather around Mr. -- protect him, Mr. Weiner. They were like grandmothers and grandfathers. It's really pathology. This is a New York pathology. This is such a transcendent passion now. Everybody is going around forgiving these people. Of course, using this forgiveness, as Eliot Spitzer is doing, you have to talk about all of this bullying. He doesn't have to talk about that very dark past. All he has to do is focus on, hey, I'm in the forgiveness business now.

    GIGOT: And voters should be a lot less forgiving of our politicians. I am not a believer in second chances for politicians. You get one.

    We have to take one more break. When we come back, "Hits and Misses" of the week.

    (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

    GIGOT: Time now for "Hits and Misses" of the week.

    First to you, Dorothy.

    RABINOWITZ: This is a great big miss to all of those members of the media and all of those cable commentators, and you know who you are, who have been busy excusing Edward Snowden, who let all of those secrets out, and underground, that he is a great man of conscience and served the Fourth Amendment. This is one of those measly white washes of which the Libertarians fanatics are in our world are busy advancing. It has allowed Mr. Snowden, who is a traitor, and did all of this not the Constitution, but in order to attack the United States.

    GIGOT: Thank you, Dorothy.

    Joe?

    RAGO: Paul, one hit and two misses this week. The first hit is to American, which is no longer the fattest country in the world, according to a new report from the U.N. The miss is to Mexico, which is now number one. The other hit is -- excuse me, other miss is to America, which isn't -- whose health is not improving. It is just other countries are getting fatter faster than us. Not a great place to be.

    GIGOT: All right.

    Bret?

    STEPHENS: Joe, that's because the food in Mexico is better. But --

    (LAUGHTER)

    This is -- this is a hit to Pope Francis, who paid an unexpected visit to a little island in the Mediterranean, which has become a giant refugee camp for Africans fleeing North Africa. Many of those Africans have died en route in little rickety boats. And the pope went and gave a mass there in which he talked about the globalization of indifference. I think it's a rich and pregnant phrase and brings to mind our indifference to refugees out of North Korea, for example, or what's going on in Syria. Good for the pope.

    GIGOT: All right. Thank you, Bret.

    And remember, if you have your own "Hit or Miss," please send it to us at jer@FOXnews.com. Be sure to follow us on Twitter at JERonFNC.

    That's it for this week's show. Thanks to my panel and especially to all of you for watching. I'm Paul Gigot. Hope to see you right here next week.

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