This is a rush transcript from "The Journal Editorial Report," June 2, 2007.
PAUL GIGOT, FOX HOST: This week on "the Journal Editorial Report," new information emerges about the suspects in the London and Glasgow bomb plots as yet another video surfaces from al-Qaeda's number two. We take an in-depth look at the changing nature of the terror threat.
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GIGOT: Welcome to the "Journal Editorial Report." I'm Paul Gigot.
As the investigation into the failed terror attacks in London and Glasgow continues new details are emerging about the suspect's rounded up so far, including the alarming fact they all had links to Britain National Health Service.
Melanie Phillips is a columnist for the "Daily Mail" and author of the book "Londonistan." She joins me now from London.
Melanie Phillips, welcome back to the program. Good to have you here.
MELANIE PHILLIPS, COLUMNIST, "DAILY MAIL": Thank you. Good to speak with you again.
GIGOT: What's the most important thing you have learned, Britain has learned from the latest terror plots?
PHILLIPS: Well, the most morning thing is what many of us knew already, which is that Britain remains a principle target for al-Qaeda, that the threats that we face consist of interlinked networks of jihadists, some of whom are British Muslims who until now have preoccupied greatly this phenomenon of British Muslims.
The suspects in this case seem to be from abroad. We don't know yet whether there are any British Muslims also in the plot. But clearly we are in the throes of a fight against an enemy with links around the world and embedded in Britain.
GIGOT: Does it surprise you at all a couple plotters were involved with the National Health Service? And what impact is that having often the British public?
PHILLIPS: Yes. Well, a number of suspects have been involved with the National Health Service. We don't know if they are the plotters. There are something like seven doctors who have been arrested and are being interviewed and others who have connections also with our health service.
We don't know whether the health service was particularly targeted, was a kind of useful umbrella group to bring together these jihadists, whether the health service is particularly vulnerable to foreign doctors without proper checks. And this is a measure of great and growing concern that maybe our checks -- undoubtedly our checks in the health service are too lax as, indeed are immigration controls generally.
But I think what struck me is the shock people have had that doctors, who are in the business of curing people, can be in the business of killing people. And personally I think this is very naive.
We have forgotten, for example, the Nazis had doctors who were involved -- Dr. Mengele did terrible experiments on people, massive killing programs. We've also forgotten the al-Qaeda number two, Ayman Zawahiri, is a doctor, and many jihadists actually have been or are doctors.
If you're brain-washed by a fanatical religious cult, which we are up against, into a belief for various reasons certain people are subhuman, not properly human, then even though you are a doctor trained to cure human beings of suffering, if you don't see certain people as human, then you kill them.
And that's what we don't really understand in Britain. We haven't really got our heads around the fact that what we are all up against in Britain and America and the free world in general is religious fanaticism, which really makes no a lounges for intelligence or whether someone is a member of a caring profession.
GIGOT: On that point, let me read you a quote that surprised me. It was from the new home secretary, Jacqui Smith, who said this week, "Terrorists are criminals who come from all religious backgrounds," end quote. Is that really the consensus view in Britain about the nature of this threat? They come from all religious background?