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July 26, 2013

Are disgraced politicians the new norm in American politics?

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," July 26, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: Now to be fair, Anthony Weiner is not the only politician, Republican or Democrat, to find themselves embroiled in scandal. However, the important questions we're asking tonight, has this behavior become the norm here in America, the new norm. Is power more important than dignity? And how can we help save America?

Here to answer all those questions, our wonderful studio audience. Good to see you all. All right. Show of hands. Does private life like Anthony Weiner, should it matter in an election? Yes? Hold your hands up. No? Hands up. Tamara Holder.

TAMARA HOLDER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: OK. Well, first of all, most men cheat. I would say about --

(BOOS)

No, I would say, so, the first thing is most men cheat. We're one of the few species who tries to not have cheating as part of our lives.

HANNITY: Guys, do you agree with this?

HOLDER: No, this is factually true.

The next thing is, is that we have to look at what politicians have to say on the issues. Not with their sexting -- Kennedy did it 100 years ago.

BO DIETL, FORMER NYPD DETECTIVE: Tamara, Tamara, first of all --

HOLDER: Bill Clinton did it 100 years ago. It doesn't matter.

DIETL: I take exception as a man that all men cheat. How about women cheating? But that's not the point here.

HOLDER: Have you ever cheated?

DIETL: Well, this has not -- this has not stopped.

HOLDER: Have you ever cheated?

(TALKING OVER EACH OTHER)

HANNITY: Well, I'll answer that question. I haven't. I've been married 20 years.

HOLDER: You're one of the few. You're one of the few. Most do.

HANNITY: One of the few. Anywhere else here hasn't cheated? There you go. Thank you very much.

DAVID WEBB, SIRIUS XM PATRIOT HOST: Where do you get the evidence that most men cheat?

HANNITY: Did I see your hand go up?

BILL CUNNINGHAM, TV AND RADIO HOST: Almost for this reason. It depends what the private misbehavior is. Clinton had the cigar and the blue dress. Now, he lied under oath to a federal judge -- I did not have sex with that woman --

HANNITY: I did not have sex with that woman, not a single time.

CUNNINGHAM: Bingo. Now, did he lie to a federal judge committing at least civil contempt of court? Yes Now, in Weiner's case, in Anthony's Weiner case, what this amounts to is private behavior, not involving a public office, the guy is a pervert, there's no question he has got sexual problems. But I don't care about --

HANNITY: Do you want a pervert being in office?

CUNNINGHAM: We already have perverts, look at Penn State.

WEBB: Sean, there's a --

(TALKING OVER EACH OTHER)

HANNITY: Weiner was taking a picture of his wiener.

CUNNINGHAM: What about Sandusky?

HANNITY: And sending them out to a 23-year-old girl.

CUNNINGHAM: What did Sandusky do?

HANNITY: All right. Bernie McGuirk, yes.

BERNARD MCGUIRK, "IMUS IN THE MORNING" PRODUCER: That's a matter of technology. He's still no different than say Bill Clinton.

Look, I don't like the term but it applies to him, creepy ass cracker, is Anthony Weiner. As a matter of fact, his online pseudonym should be fugly psycho.

(TALKING OVER EACH OTHER)

He did not do anything worse than Bill Clinton did. Technology allows him to do it now. And as far as all men cheat, if all you date is married men, you're going to have that perception.

HANNITY: All right. Up here.

WEBB: All right. Weiner does what he does. All that can be debated over and over. Let's go to compromise in his office and what he does in his judgment. We expect our politicians to have judgment, our elected officials. How good is his judgment when he does this, he lies about it, he asks for your trusts as a voter, and then goes out and does it again? And by the way, there is more coming on Anthony Weiner and what he's done.

HANNITY: Absolutely.

SCOTTIE HUGHES, TEA PARTY NEWS NETWORK: Here's the difference with Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did this act in office. In the Oval Office. That's where he should have been held accountable. And we've created this atmosphere of allowing politicians to become celebrities and it's the misinformed voter that's allowing him to be re-elected.

HANNITY: All right. Brooke, yes.

BROOKE GOLDSTEIN, THE LAWFARE PROJECT DIRECTOR: OK. What's amazing to me is that we're spending time debating smeckle gate (ph), OK, When Huma Abedin, who has connections to the Muslim Brotherhood, who was connected to the chief financier of Al Qaeda, is his wife and has top security clearance.

HANNITY: She has a great point.

GOLDSTEIN: Why are we debating this?

(TALKING OVER EACH OTHER)

MONICA CROWLEY, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Actually, what Brooke points to, that's the real Huma Abedin story. It's not about Weiner's wiener.

HANNITY: Wow!

CROWLEY: It's about Huma Abedin and her ties to Islamic --

DIETL: Also, assistant to our secretary.

CROWLEY: And soon to be maybe next president of the United States. That's what this story is really about.

HANNITY: Sally.

SALLY KOHN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: First of all, a lot of that has been disputed, I don't think we're going to get into that here. But she's also not running for office, we're not talking to her. I do think the larger issue that you raised here, Sean, is look, this kind of thing happens to Democrats and Republicans because we have allowed our political leaders, our celebrities, to fester in this culture where we put individual --

HANNITY: So, it's really the people's problems.

KOHN: No, what I'm saying, we put individuals above everyone in the common place. They're in government. They should be working for the common good and we've lost that.

HANNITY: Wait a minute. Sally is making a point. Is -- really they represent the people. The people have decided what, it's OK? Katie.

KATIE PAVLICH, TOWNHALL.COM: Well, in some cases, they have. But in terms of going back to Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is the president of the United States. Set an example. And Hillary Clinton as the first lady at the time set an example that women should lower their standards and allow and dismiss this behavior so they can have power and that translates later for opportunities for them.

Huma standing next to her man is not brave. Anthony Weiner is a sexual predator. And I take issue with the idea that we as human beings shouldn't have a level of monogamy and control. We're not animals. We're not like other species, not all men cheat.

HANNITY: Are you listening Tamara?

HOLDER: Yes. I'm listening. I just don't understand how you can make accusation that Anthony Weiner is a sexual predator. That is a crime, and just because he is engaging in very creepy behavior which I don't approve of, it doesn't make him a sexual predator.

HANNITY: Hang on. Does he remind you of a guy like in the -- this is technology that has changed things, but he's kind of reminds me of the guy with the raincoat flashing people.

DIETL: Sean, Sean, Sean --

HOLDER: He engaged in an exchange of information. I mean, this is a guy who was unfaithful -- what elected official -- let me finish.

DIETL: Sean.

HOLDER: What elected official -- let me finish, what elected official --

HANNITY: All right. We have got to take a break.

DIETL: What happened to character? What happened to character? Character to be the mayor of this great city. This guy is a slime ball.

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