WILLIAMS: Well, of course, look, it is not a matter of doing anything in defiance of the Constitution. I'm sure you, Sean, would be all over the president, and everybody would be because that is just not American.
HANNITY: You mean health care?
WILLIAMS: What this is about is Republican obstructionism, and the NRA with all of their big money, shutting people up, intimidating people, having recalls like they did in Colorado where people can't get reasonable steps to protect themselves.
ROVE: Juan, with all due respect, if people disagree with you it is because they have been bought off and been pressured by somebody else, not that they can have a legitimate disagreement with you. And I would also remind you this. Jay Carney said the president is going to take executive action, but tonight in an interview, the president said, "I have no more executive action than I could take." You may want him to take some executive action, but even the president of the United States admitted he had to come to the limits of what he could do on his own authority and he needed the people's representatives to pass it. And the people's representatives are going to make a decision on this based on their informed opinion, not on the basis of supposed pressure.
HANNITY: Let me talk about Juan, real quick.
WILLIAMS: They'll make a decision based on the NRA's money --
HANNITY: Juan, last question.
HANNITY: There are real solutions about being able to -- first of all, our background check system is not working. We have four million people with top security clearance, let's deal with that problem. And what about what Karl mentioned about the mentally ill. Should we have the ability --
WILLIAMS: That's fine. Not yet.
ROVE: Well, let's make it a priority. Let's make it a priority. Let's not have all of the rest of this stuff, which is not central to the issue here that is going to take away the right of Americans to keep and bear arms, which is an unlimited right --
WILLIAMS: Nobody is trying to take away your guns, Karl, don't try to feed paranoia, and raise your hand when you want to speak. But I just wanted to finish on this point. An overwhelming majority of the American people, an overwhelmingly majority of the American people think background checks are a reasonable step to take.
ROVE: That is not accurate, Juan --
WILLIAMS: It is accurate! Go look at the polls! You know how to read a poll.
ROVE: I have looked at them, Juan, and if you write them in a certain way, which was not reflected of the legislation that Dianne Feinstein and Harry Reid were pushing at all.
WILLIAMS: Karl, you're spinning so fast you can't even keep straight.
HANNITY: You didn't raise your hand. Karl got the last word, he had two hands up.
All right, we got to go.
WILLIAMS: All right, I'll give him that, but he is spinning, I'm telling you.
HANNITY: All right. No, he's -- I'm actually in agreement with him. Thank you.
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