CUNNINGHAM: What would Reagan do?

HANNITY: That's my point!

CUNNINGHAM: Don't do what they do. And the other thing that happened, Sean Hannity, I talk to the Democrats the last two days. When the inaugural took place on January 2009, guess what?

The campaign kept open for four years in Ohio, 139 campaign offices, signing up through Twitter, Facebook, magazine subscriptions, what shows do you watch. They had thousands, 200,000 new voters are they registered and got to the polls.

HANNITY: So what's the answer now? Do that now. Actually sometimes you can learn from a liberal. They are good at their ground game. I'll give them -- I'll give them all the credit for that. They deserve credit. For the smear campaign, they ought to be ashamed of themselves. That's a hollow victory. It's like a kid that cheats and wins. You know deep down inside, you were sleazy and slimy -- how do they counter that?

CUNNINGHAM: Karl Rove did it. Sean Hannity, in 2004, Kerry got 6 million votes more than Al Gore. If somebody had said to you the night before the election, guess what, Kerry is -- what would you have said?

HANNITY: Over.

CUNNINGHAM: It wasn't because Rove went into small-town America, especially in Ohio, and registered more voters.

HANNITY: All right, you know Ohio better than anybody. This became a different turnout model. You were right about Hamilton and Butler and Warren counties and all the surrounding Republican areas. They came out, what, 75 percent --

CUNNINGHAM: It's 71 percent to 78 percent.

HANNITY: Amazing. All right, so they came out in droves. But still it wasn't enough because Northern Ohio came out in numbers that were unprecedented. Look, Obama lost 10 million votes nationally. But I am shocked. Three million fewer Republicans voted for Mitt Romney than John McCain.

CUNNINGHAM: It is because of the moderate label he was tagged with. It was because white women in our area watched those commercials. In Cuyahoga County, they registered 140,000 more traditional Democratic voters.

There were precincts in Cuyahoga County, Cleveland, that voted 114-3 for Obama. There were precincts in Cincinnati that were 828-1 for Obama.

HANNITY: It was like two different states.

CUNNINGHAM: If the same number of African-Americans in Ohio voted in 2012 in 2008, Romney would have won the state.

HANNITY: It was so close, Virginia, Ohio, Florida. There have to be adjustments, but you don't compromise your principles. They have to do a better job of messaging. Their ground game has to be -- it has to be the right candidate and a united party.

CUNNINGHAM: I do one thing. Abortion, no, absolutely, right to life. It is Hispanic issues, getting on the ballot --

HANNITY: But we can't have somebody like Todd Akin say something as dumb as what he said. We're going to deal with this tonight.

CUNNINGHAM: Terrible.

HANNITY: Right. By the way, coming up, speaking -- thanks, Billy Cunningham, God bless you. You're a great American. Thanks for the full report.

CUNNINGHAM: Thank you.

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