• With: Tucker Carlson

    CARLSON: It's a little less than 10.

    HANNITY: A little less than 10 minutes. All right? Here's more of that speech that we have never seen before.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    OBAMA: And when it comes to faith, we have been told that all that matters is what divides us, Evangelicals, don't be talking to mainland Protestants. Black church, that is different from the white church. Had stories about Trinity United Church of Christ because we talked about black people in church. Oh, that might be a separatist church. Catholics can't be getting together with Protestants or Muslims or Jews.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    HANNITY: Now, let me play that through this prism. And that's when I interviewed -- remember, Reverend Wright, he was in the audience. This is June. He was dis-invited from the -- from the invocation when Obama announced he's running for president. Came on my show, two months later. This was the last interview that Reverend Wright did. Hear what he said about black liberation theology and, you know, when he goes on to say in that particular clip there because we talk about black people in church. Here was my exchange with Reverend Wright.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "HANNITY AND COLMES," MARCH 1, 2007)

    HANNITY: This is on the web site today. Let me just inform our audience. And I want you to respond, if you can. It says, "Commitment to God." By the way, I am with you. I hope you pray for me, Reverend. "Commitment to the black community. Commitment to the black family. Adherence to the black work ethic."

    Now, Reverend, if every time we said black, if it was a church and those words were white, wouldn't we call that church racist?

    REV. JEREMIAH WRIGHT, GRACE BAPTIST CHURCH: No, we would call it Christianity. We have been saying for that since there was a white Christianity, we have been saying that ever since white Christians took part in the slave trade, we've been saying that ever since they had churches in slave castles. We don't have to say the word white. We just have to live in white America, the United States of white America.

    HANNITY: I am going to ask you this question.

    WRIGHT: How many books of Dwight Hopkins have you read?

    HANNITY: You are very angry and defensive. I am just trying to ask a question here -- Barack Obama goes to your church --

    (TALKING OVER EACH OTHER)

    WRIGHT: I'm asking you a question. You haven't answered my question.

    HANNITY: It seems to be, when you say the black community, black families --

    (TALKING OVER EACH OTHER)

    WRIGHT: Keyword is "seems" --

    HANNITY: It seems --

    WRIGHT: It seems -- It seems to an arrogant, ignorant person. I'm asking you, have you answered me? How many books of Dwight Hopkins have you read?

    (TALKING OVER EACH OTHER)

    HANNITY: Sir, I'm going to say this, whether you like it or not, I am going to get my words in. And I'm going to tell you right now. I'm going to tell you --

    (TALKING OVER EACH OTHER)

    WRIGHT: It's not about liking. Have you read --

    HANNITY: I think as a Christian sir, I think as a Christian, you should not separate by race in this day and age. And that's why a lot of people are going to look at that and say, we are all supposed to be united under Christ, are we?

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    HANNITY: That goes into black liberation theology which we examined. And there might have been one interview that he did after that. But I don't remember which one. But black liberation theology, you know, the black community, the black this, the black that, and I am asking him about -- and he is praising him here but then he gives this is other speech. Did he just say those words in Philadelphia to make the controversy go away? What does he believe?

    CARLSON: Well, let me just say, I believe that Jeremiah Wright married Michelle and Barack Obama.

    HANNITY: That's true.

    CARLSON: Twenty years ago tomorrow. I believe that was their anniversary tomorrow. Amazing.

    Look, my personal feeling is that he speaks to each audience what he thinks that audience wants to hear. But let me see how totally disingenuous it is for Obama to claim that Jeremiah Wright was attacked for talking about black people in church. That's utterly false. I reported on this too at the time. People had very specific concerns about the nature of black liberation theology. It wasn't talking about black people in church.

    That -- to say something like that before this audience is again, to reinforce the point that the rest of the world doesn't like you because of your skin color. This makes people more fearful, more paranoid, and by the way, more cut off from the rest of America. This is the opposite of what a uniter does, this is what a demagogue does. And it's wrong.

    HANNITY: We'll be interested to see if anybody in the media follows up and has the courage to ask about these things. Remember, during the 2008 --

    CARLSON: Don't hold your breath.

    HANNITY: -- election, 2008 election cycle, he was asked one time about Bill Ayers and he just got -- a guy he started his political career in his house, gave speeches with and sat on boards with. "He's just a guy in the neighborhood." Acted like he barely knew him and he still got away with it.

    We'll follow up. Tucker, thank you. The full 40 minutes on The Daily Caller.

    CARLSON: Thanks, Sean.

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