This is a rush transcript from "Fox News Watch," November 10, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
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JON SCOTT, HOST OF "FOX NEWS WATCH": On "Fox News Watch"...
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DIANE SAWYER, ANCHOR, ABC NEWS: We are projecting the battleground state of Ohio for President Barack Obama.
BRIAN WILLIAMS, ANCHOR, NBC NEWS: Ohio, President Barack Obama.
BRET BAIER, HOST OF "AMERICA'S ELECTION HEADQUARTERS": We can now definitively say that President Barack Obama will be re-elected.
SCOTT PELLEY, CBS NEWS: President Obama has won a second term.
SCOTT: The news media calling a big win for President Obama after taking wins in key states giving him four more years in the White House, and the usual media suspects rejoice.
CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC: I'm so glad we had that storm last week.
SCOTT: Did the media cheerleading help Mr. Obama take the win?
KARL ROVE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: We've got to be careful about calling things, when we have like 991 votes separating the two candidates, and a quarter of the vote yet to count.
SCOTT: Karl Rove expresses his view about the race call in Ohio, and the liberal press takes shots at him and Fox News.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: The best is yet to come.
SCOTT: Four more years of an Obama administration, a redo for the president to make things right. Will it be for more years of a media love fest?
OBAMA: As I said, we're still investigating exactly what happened, I don't want to jump the gun on this.
SCOTT: CBS News releases another clip from its interview with the president. More proof showing what Mr. Obama thought about the Benghazi attack, but is it also proof of CBS helping the White House hide the truth? And now that the election has come and gone, what do Americans and the late night comics have to look forward to.
STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST OF"THE COLBERT REPORT": And how do you repay me? Four more years of hope and change.
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SCOTT: On the panel this week, writer and Fox News contributor Judy Miller, syndicated columnist Cal Thomas, Jim Pinkerton, contributing editor of the American Conservative Magazine, and Daily Beast and USA Today columnist Kirsten Powers. I'm Jon Scott. "Fox News Watch" is on right now.
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MITT ROMNEY, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I have just called President Obama to congratulate him on his victory. His supporters and his campaign also deserve congratulations. I wish all of them well, but particularly the president, the first lady and their daughters.
ROMNEY: This is a time of great challenges for America.
ROMNEY: And I pray that the president will be successful in guiding our nation.
OBAMA: Tonight in this election you, the American people reminded us that while our road has been hard, while our journey has been long we have picked ourselves up. We have fought our way back.
OBAMA: And we know in our hearts that for the United States of America the best is yet to come.
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SCOTT: And that is the way election night ended. So considering it all, Jim, after a more than a yearlong campaign, it's over? Did it fit the media narrative?
JIM PINKERTON, THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE MAGAZINE: I think it ended sort of the way the media for the most part wanted it to end. But if, look, if the feeling prospectable (ph) here, you know, perspective-ish, then let's go back to July 10, 2004, when Evan Thomas then of Newsweek said that the media support for Democrats, was worth, quote, "maybe 15 points," unquote. Then on October 17th, 2004, he amended that to maybe five points. Because in fact, President Obama won by two points, you could argue -- you could make an argument...
SCOTT: So, you think -- you think if media were absolutely fair, Mitt Romney would be president?
PINKERTON: Well, I think if -- let's -- let the viewers judge for themselves. You go to the Media Research Center, where I found those quotes and there's about 30 more lovingly curated quotes from other reporters up including Jim Vandehei of Politico saying that most of the people he's ever met in journalism vote Democratic. Then you might make your argument that media bias helped the president a good deal.
JUDY MILLER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I think I'm just going to have to disagree with you there, Jim. And this is not going to be a data-based call. It is a gut call, which I know right now is in ill favor, because of the outcome of the election. But, you know, I think that if you really looked at the overall coverage, what were the issues that the Americans cared about. The economy and then a big storm on the East Coast.
SCOTT: Right, but...
MILLER: They covered it and they covered it pretty straight.
SCOTT: But the exit polls said that voters thought that Mitt Romney was better equipped to handle the economy than Barack Obama.
MILLER: Then it said something about the attitude toward the two men and they made a choice or the two parties and they made a choice. Because if you just go by viewers, Fox vs. MSNBC, Romney should have won three to one. And he didn't.
SCOTT: But Kirsten, the exit polls, some suggest reflected sort of the media meme that Barack Obama is the candidate of the little guy and the middle-class and Mitt Romney is this rich guy who only cares about rich guys? Was that the media meme, first of all?
KIRSTEN POWERS, USA TODAY AND DAILY BEAST COLUMNIST: Well, I think that's truth. I mean-- I mean I think that it's clear that Obama is the person who is looking to have middle-class tax cuts and Mitt Romney was the person that was looking to give tax cuts to rich people. But what I would say, the reason I don't think that the media played as big of a role in this, is that I think the reason Barack Obama won is because he ran a superior campaign. And it was very targeted in these battleground states. And I -- and if you -- I would be more interested, actually, in seeing exit polls from the battleground states which unfortunately we didn't have. These national exit polls, I think, don't tell us that much because what happened in the battleground states was so radically different than what was happening elsewhere. Especially if you look the gender gap, there were some really amazing swings that happened because Barack Obama's campaign was bombarding them with these messages about women and Mitt Romney.
SCOTT: Microtargeting. Through -- well, media like Facebook and that kind of thing, Cal?
CAL THOMAS, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST: Well, if you think the media are all powerful and can convince most people, how to vote, how do you explain the Republican victories in the past several election cycles? Ronald Reagan twice, the Tea Party and the rest. Look, the nation is changing. It is younger, it is less white. The first thing that the Republicans ought to do is get rid of the "o" in GOP, it's Grand Old Party. That's their problem.
They need an infusion of young and Hispanic and African-American and more female leaders. And granted, as some radio talk show hosts have said this week, every time the Republicans put one up, whether it's a Condoleezza Rice or it's a Clarence Thomas, or whoever, Nikki Haley in South Carolina - - they're always bashed as being anti-women or Oreo's or whatever. But they got to keep trying, because the color of the world is changing.
PINKERTON: However, Romney only lost by two points. And so, Judy, you spent some number of decades at the New York Times...
PINKERTON: ... which for much of that period was probably the most powerful single news entity. Could you please clarify for us how you see the political coloration of the New York Times and its coverage of the last few decades?
MILLER: I think there is no doubt that most of the reporters who are at the New York Times lean Democratic.
POWERS: The same reporters who were there were when George Bush...
MILLER: Exactly. But they are the same reporters who are - who were there...
PINKERTON: But the question is whether you win because or win in spite of.
MILLER: I don't think you win because the New York Times endorses you or doesn't endorse you.
PINKERTON: You don't think?
MILLER: I think it's almost irrelevant, and that is a problem today for major newspapers. They don't -- people aren't reading it as they used to.
PINKERTON: Even journalistic study shows that President Obama sailed into prominence on the basis of media affection in the --2004 to 2008...
POWERS: But that's not going to help you overcome what he was up against. Barack Obama defied history in getting reelected. And he may -- he actually won by 100 electoral votes. So, I mean...
MILLER: And that's not --
POWERS: Yeah, I mean...
SCOTT: He certainly had the media on his side.
PINKERTON: It didn't defy history. I mean 11 of 15 elected incumbents seeking reelection, got re-elected.
POWERS: But not with an unemployment rate and not with approval rating under 50. I mean, he was...
SCOTT: But did the media make enough of that? He seemed to have the media on his side, including Chris Matthews of MSNBC. Look at this.
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MATTHEWS: I'm so glad we had that storm last week because I think the storm was one of those things, now, politically I should say, not in terms of hurting people. The storm brought in possibilities for good politics.
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SCOTT: Yeah, more than 100 people dead in the hurricane. And Chris Matthews was glad. For now, he did apologize for it the next day. Judy.
MILLER: Yes, he did. But what does one expect from Chris Matthews? If you watch that show, you want to hear that point of view.
MILLER: And that is what has happened to the media. Just as we have discussed week after week the intense polarization of the media, just as we've had of the electorate.
PINKERTON: After Katrina the media pinned all the blame on President Bush. After Sandy the media pinned all the blame on Bloomberg. And not FEMA, and just -- Rudy Giuliani who should have been able to make news, said FEMA was just as bad in -- at the wake of Sandy as they were in the wake of Katrina, and oddly enough, that didn't make the media narrative about the election.
THOMAS: One thing the media did promote. It was the Democratic line of entitlement, greed and envy. This was the -- this was from Bain Capital during the Republican primary right up through the campaign. And this appealed to an awful lot of people. You heard that in his Friday afternoon remarks post election. And by the way, unlike most other post elections, there were no reporters there. There were just cheerleaders for him. He answered no questions.
SCOTT: Much more to come on "News Watch," including an analysis of media treatment of Republicans.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: President Obama's win a big loss for the GOP. But with the election outcome are results of an all-out liberal media hit on the Republican Party? And did any in the conservative press undermine their party's effort? Answers next on "News Watch."
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CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Romney was the only one remotely presidential. And he was a logical candidate. But think of those who didn't run. There's, of course, Paul Ryan, who I think will be a leader in the party. You have a whole rising young generation. Kelly Ayotte, you've got Bobby Jindal Nikki Haley, Ted Cruz, the new senator from Texas, Marco Rubio, this whole generation who were just a year or two short in their careers from running this time are all going to be in the fray next time. And I think they are the future. And all this soul-searching about what ideology we're going to pursue is going to come from them, and I think it will be a fairly Reaganite and conservative one. I think that the future of the party is quite bright.
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SCOTT: That's Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer on election night, with his take on Mitt Romney as the GOP candidate as well as the future of the Republican Party. He was one of the bright stars or bright spots I guess. All of the other media seemed to be very down on the GOP, Judy.
MILLER: Well, I think that Charles Krauthammer is always interesting, and in this case it is a minority view. I think most people definitely believe that the party needs to look at itself. That there’s a lot of soul-searching that should go on. That the assumption that blacks and Hispanics would not turn out -- when you have this statistic to staring you in the face, 50,000 Hispanic Americans turn 18 every single month in this country, you better take a look at what your party, and what it stands for, and its attitude towards those people.
THOMAS: I agree with that. I mean - look, you look at what's happening out there. You have an entire two generations now who believe that the government owes them something. The whole idea, if you build a successful business, the rag against Romney he was a rich, out of touch man. We now denigrate what we used to promote in this country. The media does, too. Rich people are evil and they owe other people who sleep till noon. You have seen the YouTube of the Obama phone woman. How are you going to get a free phone? Well, you've got to vote for Obama, you've got to be on food stamps, you've got to be on disability. This is how you get a free phone.
POWERS: This is why Republicans will never be--
THOMAS: No, but that is the attitude. That's the attitude.
POWERS: No, but this idea that like that people who vote for Obama are a bunch of these freeloaders and moochers.
THOMAS: It's true. A lot of them are.
POWERS: It is not true.
THOMAS: How do you know that?
POWERS: How do I know that? Because I look at the data of who votes for him. And these are working people. If you look at the electorate.
THOMAS: Working people...
POWERS: The people who vote, these are people who are often working more than one job. And it's those kinds...
THOMAS: And why is that?
POWERS: This kind of comments that alienate- alienate---
THOMAS: Truth alienates.
POWERS: No, that's not. ...
THOMAS: Truth alienates. Why are they working more than job? It's because of the economy, it's because they have been abandoned by a husband or a father or whatever. It's because -- because they can't get a job that pays enough. And why is that? Because of high taxes and regulation, that's why.
POWERS: That is not what you said. You were describing them as like moochers on welfare.
THOMAS: Many of them are.
POWERS: No, they're not.
THOMAS: Yes, they are!
POWERS: This is the kind of stuff like I said...
THOMAS: I'm not running.
POWERS: The Republican Party thinks they are ever going to attract Hispanics by talking...
THOMAS: So, they have to do more like Democrats, in order to win.
POWERS: No. I don't think that. I think that...
THOMAS: But what do they have to be?
POWERS: They have to stop saying things that are so denigrating to a large part of the population.
THOMAS: So, what do they say?
SCOTT: Let's get back to an examination of media coverage. Charles Krauthammer was the guy who began this block with his remarks, largely positive about what he sees in the upcoming class of GOP, and then there is Martin Bashir, an MSNBC anchor who played a clip of Krauthammer saying that and then said this. "Now I need to apologize to any young viewers who may have been frightened by that face." Now, considering all that Charles has been through, you know, quadriplegia, and so forth, how do you get away with making a disgusting statement like that?
MILLER: You can get away with it on MSNBC. I don't think you could get away with it on many networks, and he like Chris Matthews should apologize.
POWERS: I doubt Charles cares what Martin Bashir thinks.
MILLER: You know, I mean, really...
PINKERTON: But if there's standards of fairness, again, if we hold the media to any of this civility stuff that we're all -- we're supposed to be talking about, and not course the culture and so on, then MSNBC would suspend the guy for a while. And the disability community would rise up and demand as Jon said, Dr. Krauthammer's been in a wheelchair for 40 years. You know, it's a sort of an amazing story that he can...
POWERS: He's not a victim. He's brilliant. He is revered. Martin Bashir is a clown. You know, I mean, really, let's not -- I just -- this idea that like somehow there has to be an apology. Of course, it's reprehensible and disgusting, but Martin Bashir says reprehensible and disgusting things almost every time I've ever seen him on TV. So, you know, it's-- MSNBC has a problem with the things that people say.
SCOTT: You can get away with it on MSNBC? Is that what you are -- is that...
POWERS: I think you can. I mean, I don't think -- look, and we talked about Chris Matthews earlier. I mean, the way he treated Hillary Clinton and the way he's treated Sarah Palin, I mean, disgusting misogyny. You know, it's like -- why expect anything different from them?
PINKERTON: Except that it does appear that a significant chunk of the left-leaning media can pound on Republicans and (inaudible), what else do you expect, and that's -- maybe not adequate in terms of making the system better.
THOMAS: Let's talk about another smear quickly. The angry white male. I got some angry white males for you. Michael Moore, Sean Penn, Alec Baldwin, how come they never get smeared with angry white male? It's only the conservatives.
POWERS: Oh, poor white men.
SCOTT: Then there is that cover of Newsweek, one of the final covers of a print edition of Newsweek "GOP: Too Old, Too White." And on it goes.
SCOTT: But first, if you see something that you feel shows evidence of media bias, tweet us, Fox News Watch on Twitter, up next: Karl Rove becomes a liberal media target once again.
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ROVE: I'm just raising the question of our responsibility to call these things when it appears to ordinary Americans that we are not leading the pack for the sake of leading the pack.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Karl Rove stirs it up on election night expressing his concerns over the race call in Ohio. And the liberal media jumps at the chance to take shots at Fox News. Why are the media questioning the roles of other political pros? That is next on "News Watch."
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BAIER: Fox News can now project that President Obama will win the crucial battleground state of Ohio. Long considered to be the harbinger of -- for the nation with its 18 electoral votes. Ohio, this was the entire ball game.
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SCOTT: Fox news anchor Bret Baier there reporting the crucial call for the presidential race in Ohio on Tuesday night. A few minutes later, Fox News Sunday anchor Chris Wallace got some reaction from political strategists Joe Trippi and Karl Rove.
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JOE TRIPPI, DEMOCRATIC CAMPAIGN STRATEGIST: If you look at some of these counties that are still left out there, there are votes, a lot of votes left for Obama that could outnumber some of these suburban counties.
CHRIS WALLACE, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Could, not has.
TRIPPI: Well, but if the decision desk has looked at those -- and is looking at key precincts in those counties, and projecting, that's what they do. And they may -- you know, we haven't been able to go and do that yet.
ROVE: Apparently the web site is now being crashed because they can no longer refresh it. But look, I don't know what the outcome is going to be. But you should be -- we've got to be careful about calling things when we have like 991 votes separating the two candidates, and a quarter of the vote yet to count. Even if they have made it on the basis of select precincts, I would be very cautious about intruding in this process.
WALLACE: Well, folks...
WALLACE: So maybe not so fast.
ROVE: Thanks a lot.
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SCOTT: Karl thought the call had been made too early. That was his point, the media reaction was astounding. Headlines like "Meltdown", "Civil War", "Rove Rejects Reality." The New York Daily News said, "Karl was raving mad."
POWERS: You -- I mean its Fox derangement syndrome.
POWERS: It really, it really is Fox derangement syndrome.
SCOTT: You were part of that coverage that night. I thought Karl was perfectly reasonable.
POWERS: Yeah, no, and it's one of the things that's great about Fox, is that people are allowed to express what they're thinking. It's not actually controlled by other people like everyone thinks that, you know that there's some lady behind the scenes, whispering in everybody's earls. You know, that Karl was able to say what he thought. It was able to play out on TV. It was interesting, it was compelling television. No one was melting down. There also was coverage about all these like sad faces. Like what are they talking about? I mean when of course when you bring on Sarah Palin who is a died in the wool Republican, I'm sure she was disappointed. But most people were having a perfectly good time.
MILLER: And I also think that Fox turned it into a great moment of TV. As you said, it was terrific television, when you had Megyn Kelly go back to the decision desk.
PINKERTON: That was great...
MILLER: Do you stand by this call? No. And in fact, they did. And that is what news organizations do when they have character and backbone.
SCOTT: This is video in case you want to watch it. This is video of Megyn leaving the set and strolling 50 or so yards to our decision desk where, you know, she found out that they did disagree with Karl at that point in the evening. And they were backing up the call for Ohio.
POWERS: But then they had brought on Michael Barone, and had Karl together. I mean I thought it was very compelling television. Everybody makes their case.
SCOTT: The media tried to insinuate, many liberal media tried to insinuate that somehow Karl was manipulating our decision desk when in fact – it just proved...
SCOTT: That he's an independent voice.
PINKERTON: That's correct. Look, I mean -- look, I agree with it. It's part of this Fox derangement syndrome. And it's further that unique -- hatred that a lot of people in this country on the left have for Karl Rove personally, and they sort of -- the chance they thought to kind of poetically link up Florida in 2000 to Ohio in 2012, and they didn't even care what the reality was -- they want to sort of make it into, as you said, a meltdown or a nervous breakdown or whatever it was...
PINKERTON: However. Look, anybody watching the TV that night thought he was -- for a while, that actually Romney was ahead in Ohio a little bit. And they called it for Obama. Anybody, citizen would have right to scratch his head and say what's that all about? And so you then go and show Chris Stirewalt, all the rest of the team, saying here is what we think, here is what we think. And the fact that they were proven right shows that those people in that decision room knew what they were doing. I think it was a good behind the scenes look.
THOMAS: We had a phrase when I was working for NBC many moons ago that we want to be first, but more importantly we want to be right. And I think that Karl Rove was exercising proper caution. Look at some of the past elections when the decision desks of various networks have been wrong.
SCOTT: Sure. Sure.
THOMAS: (inaudible) in 2000, what happens in the media, dump all over, why are you projecting these things? Why are you doing this? This is -- look at the voting -- the voting still going on in California or Alaska.
SCOTT: And there was speculation in 2000 that it may have affected the outcome of the election because people in the western time zones...
SCOTT: Had already heard...
PINKERTON: In 1980, when the Carter people felt that people had not voted in the Western time zones, and it didn't affect the election, but affected Senate races and House races out there.
PINKERTON: This is a standard thing. You can't win sometimes.
THOMAS: That's right.
SCOTT: And nobody seemed to be questioning the fact that George Stephanopolous, you know, former spokesman for Bill Clinton, is anchoring the coverage at ABC. Nobody seemed to be bothered by that.
THOMAS: I wonder why.
POWERS: Well, I don't really think it's quite the same thing. I mean -- I think George Stephanopolous has done a good job of transitioning into a reporter role. You know, I mean Karl is, quite clearly, I mean he has a side. But that's the thing. He has a side. He's allowed to have a side. It's out in the open.
SCOTT: All right, next on "News Watch," no longer an election issue. Will the Benghazi attacks get any real media attention? Coming up.
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OBAMA: It's too early to know exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: CBS releases a new clip adding more to the controversy over the president's position on the deadly attacks in Benghazi. Was CBS and other media helping the White House in a cover-up over the terror attacks? Details next on "News Watch."
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STEVE KROFT, CBS ANCHOR: Mr. President, this morning, you went out of your way to avoid the use of word terrorism in connection with the Libya attack.
KROFT: Do you believe that this was a terrorist attack?
OBAMA: Well, it's too early to know exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously, it was an attack on Americans. And we are going to be working with the Libyan government to make sure that we bring these folks to justice one way or the other.
KROFT: This has been described as a mob action. That there are reports that they were very heavily armed, with grenades.
OBAMA: As I said...
KROFT: It doesn't sound like a normal demonstration?
OBAMA: As I said, we are still investigating exactly what happened. I don't want to jump the gun on this.
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SCOTT: Two days before the election, CBS posted that clip from a September 12th "60 Minutes" interview, in which President Obama seems to contradict himself on the Benghazi attack. As you just heard, Mr. Obama would not say whether he thought the attack that killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans was terrorism, but we all remember, Jim, what happened during the debate.
PINKERTON: We do. When Candy Crowley jumped on the stage and tackled -- attacked Romney...
MILLER: Exactly what happened.
PINKERTON: To sum up the situation like that.
PINKERTON: Look, hats off to Bret Baier who -- what noticed this, or at least was first to print it and note that this information here, which makes the president look inconsistent, shall I say, why did CBS wait almost six weeks to, almost two months, actually, to make it available to the public? Let the public decide.
THOMAS: Practice in the past has always been what's not on the air; you put the rest of it in its entirety on the web, so people can access it. To have this come out just a few days before the election feeds the conspiracy theorists out there, who are in their bunkers in Idaho waiting for the meteors to fall.
SCOTT: Well, and some of them - some of them are in tin bunkers in Idaho.
SCOTT: Judy or a lot of, you know, very smart people who say, CBS covered up.
MILLER: Well, I think there's a difference between making a mistake and a conspiracy. And put me down in they made a mistake department. Because if they really were part of a conspiracy, they wouldn't have released this information at all until after the election
Look, I think news organizations are bureaucratic and turf driven organizations. And the purpose of the "60 Minutes" interview was not, the focus was not Benghazi, it was the economy and the broader record. And the reporter involved, Steve Kroft, is very balanced and very careful. But he just wasn't paying attention to that. Eventually, when it was discovered that they had news, they did put it out there. Too late, but they put it out.
SCOTT: But why not -- you know, why not do that the week before, Kirsten?
POWERS: Well, I think it's probably if you take what Judy says and accept that as being the truth, and I do...
SCOTT: That they bungled it.
POWERS: Yes. Then I would say it speaks to a bigger problem with the media, which is that they weren't following the Benghazi story. And they weren't taking it seriously, and that they bought the administration's line. I mean that is what happened with Candy Crowley, is that she was just -- they weren't following this. They just were taking this direction from the White House and then parroting what they heard. So, the fact that he didn't know that that was news says more about the broader media culture that they just aren't taking this seriously.
SCOTT: Let's just imagine, Jim, that, you know, during that debate that, you know, Candy Crowley had, you know, backed up the president in the way she did. If some enterprising CBS News producer, and there are millions of them on "60 Minutes", probably 25 of whom saw that interview, if they had said, wait a minute, we have news here. We can play the president and his thinking on the day after the attack. What would that have done?
PINKERTON: Well, I think it would have made a big difference. I mean look what the media did to Condi Rice and the Bush administration on the 16 words and the yellow cake. That was the most covered analyzed chronicles of Abu Ghraib. I mean pick your mistake or abuse of the Bush years, and just apply it to this. Look, the media had a template, which was number one horse race, which is what -- as at "60 Minutes" interview was mostly vowed horse race. Oh, and by the way, subtext, support Obama. So therefore, what we do with Benghazi? Put it in the can.
THOMAS: Well, I just don't accept the idea that somehow the media weren't paying attention. And so that's why they didn't focus on this. It's a big story. We have had terrorism on the front pages of our newspapers and in lead positions of our television newscast at least since 9/11. This is part of a larger piece. This is part of the radicals in the Islamic world saying in their media that they are coming after us. And if we don't believe it, then that is a problem in the media and the mindset of the American people.
SCOTT: Well, Congress wants to take this up. Is it going to be -- it's not an election issue anymore. President Obama has won reelection, so will the media treat this as a serious story or will it be just a Republican conservative sort of attempt to go after the White House?
POWERS: Well, I think that...
POWERS: I would like to think that they would take it seriously. But unfortunately, unless some Democrats come and get on board with also wanting to look at this, it's going to come off as being a partisan attack.
SCOTT: Why would Democrats don't want to do that?
POWERS: Because they don't want to do something that's going to be harmful to the president, and I think they believe what the White House is saying. They believe that it was just a fog of war and all of these other things. The other thing I'll say is that Chairman Issa really I think damaged himself with his Fast and Furious thing, which he spent all this time on, and it ended up bearing no fruit. And so now, it looks like he is just a partisan going after the president. Even though, in this situation there is really a lot of questions that need to be answered.
POWERS: I think they're going to be answered. And my problem always with the way, in which the story was being covered, was that were too few mainstream reporters covering it. Ironically, and this makes the CBS screw up even harder to accept is that CBS was one of the networks that did pay attention to Benghazi. But now, you're going to have hearings and we are going to get some answers finally. I don't think it's going to go away.
SCOTT: All right. Up next, the hits and misses of social media and the election.
SCOTT: According to Twitter there were 327,452 tweets per minute at 11:19 p.m. on election night when the networks called the presidential race for Barack Obama. The rest of the night had some Twitter activity, as well. And then there was this photo. By Friday, it had been re-tweeted more than 800,000 times and liked on Facebook more than 4 billion times. So, this was perhaps the biggest election involving social media. Has the impact been overestimated, overstated?
PINKERTON: Well, you don't know until it happens. I was -- I noted on the show before that disparity between President Obama and Mitt Romney on Facebook likes and Twitter followers was, you know, orders of magnitude, like ten times. And I was speculating is this going to mean anything or not? Who knows for sure, because there’s a little subculture of people say, actually, a lot of this social media is kind of fake, there is all, you know, robots and drones, and things, you know ...
PINKERTON: Fake, vaporware sites. However, now we know that President Obama took a 2 million vote lead and turned it into a 130 vote Electoral College spread, which means he did a better job at distributing his votes, and that suggests a triumph of micro-targeting.
PINKERTON: In his favor.
SCOTT: The Obama campaign sent out something like seven times as many tweets during the course of the campaign as the Romney campaign.
MILLER: Exactly. And the Economist, a mainstream magazine, took that tweeted picture and made it its cover to show you the impact now of the social media. The way in which its memes, Jim, are picked up by others and the mainstream media. And 20 percent of the people who sent out those tweets also said that they had used it to try and influence their friends to vote a certain way.
MILLER: So we have a kind of double effect here.
SCOTT: That's the perfect time to bring in this Pew study on voting and social media. It found that voters ages 18 to 49 -- I'm sorry, 18 to 29 and 30-49, look at the numbers there -- have been encouraged to vote 45 percent and 40 percent respectively on social media. Announced their vote by a social media. 29 and 29. And encouraged others -- encouraged others to vote for a particular candidate. 34 percent of the 18 to 29-year-olds encouraged other people to vote via social media. That's an astounding number. Kirsten.
THOMAS: I don't think there's any data that shows that you influenced anybody. Let's say if you are a Republican parent living in the east and have a Democratic daughter at a college in the west. If you are tweeting, say, I just voted for Romney, I hope you will too. If you could -- if you could link the two up, but I do think, as Jim pointed out, the tremendous disparity between the Romney and the Obama campaigns on social media. They obviously did a much better job, the Obama campaign, turning out their base than Romney did.
PINKERTON: One of the spins out of the election and the coverage was that the Romney campaign had yard signs...
PINKERTON: ... and the Obama campaign had, you know, instant messages. And we now know who won this. I mean Mike Flynn at Breitbart did a terrific piece, saying look, the Republicans have got a huge problem now, they don't have a Silicon Valley connection. I mean, there are probably 25 executives from Facebook, former executives working in the Obama campaign somewhere. And as far as I know, the Romney campaign -- another thing to watch this story developing is that the fate of ORCA, which was the Republican -- the Romney get out the vote operation in Boston, which apparently was a complete fiasco.
PINKERTON: Again, this is not a good sign. And something that reporters will be just digging up for a long time to come.
SCOTT: One of problems with social media is that bad news travels fast. Brian Williams, the NBC network anchor, had to correct an incorrect tweet that went out. He says, "There is a rogue re-tweet going around that we have somehow called the Massachusetts Senate race. We have not."
POWERS: Yeah. No, that happened a couple of times on election night, where somebody would tweet something out. Somebody who you are following, who normally had something right and it would just get re-tweeted and re- tweeted, and Elizabeth Warren, that was I think the first one where they -- I mean it turned out she did end up winning, but much before it actually had been called.
SCOTT: Coming up, on "News Watch," a look ahead to the coverage we can expect over the next four years.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: President Obama gets a second chance. Another four more years as our president and another four more years of media infatuations -- or will the media actually take him to task over the hard issues? Answers next on "News Watch."
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OBAMA: Now that those of us on the campaign trail have had a chance to get a little sleep, it's time to get back to work. And there is plenty of work to do. As I said on Tuesday night, the American people voted for action, not politics as usual. You elected us to focus on your jobs and not ours. And in that spirit, I have invited leaders of both parties to the White House next week so we can start to build consensus around the challenges that we can only solve together.
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SCOTT: President Obama on Friday repeating what he said in his victory speech Tuesday night, promising to work with Congress and move forward to fix the problems that Americans are facing. It was an interesting speech, and maybe a conciliatory one, Jim. But I also heard him say it's up to Congress to fix this fiscal cliff thing that's coming up at the end of the year or at the beginning of next. Well?
PINKERTON: Well, you know, this is beginning of a great Beltway story now, this whole negotiations back and forth, I mean that irresistible force of President Obama's re-election and the immovable object, the fact that Republicans have a mandate, too of an equal branch of Congress. We'll see.
SCOTT: It is curious, Judy, because, you know, the coverage seems to presuppose that the only person who got re-elected was the president, when in fact John Boehner and all of the others got re-elected, as well?
MILLER: Yeah, and it's interesting, because if you still believe in hope and change, it's amazing that the American people elected the same configuration, which is basically a check and balance system that is going to make it very hard to do anything no matter by what margin Obama won.
SCOTT: So, how does the -- how does the media cover this -- well, these next four years? You have got ObamaCare finally being implemented. Now that, you know, 2013 is almost here, that kind of thing, the economy is still in the doldrums. What is going to be the headline?
POWERS: I think that it'll probably be focused on the intransigence of the House. It would be my best guess.
PINKERTON: That's right.
POWERS: That it will probably be blamed on the House not moving to meet Obama in the middle.
THOMAS: Right. I totally agree with that. And I would also add that as of Friday, there was a Website that was showing some major corporations from Boeing to Bristol-Myers and many others beginning to lay off substantial number of workers. Will that get covered or that be blamed on ObamaCare? I don't think so.
PINKERTON: And another front looking ahead, Sharon Waxman, Judy's former colleague at the "New York Times" who now runs a Website called The Wrap said listen, this was Hollywood's victory. They won on gay marriage. They won on marijuana, they won on abortion. This is now sort of a Hollywood, you know, Sunset Boulevard vision of the country, just won a huge victory.
SCOTT: Well, and there are some huge issues. You have got Iran apparently pursuing the bomb. You have got North Korea having the bomb. There are all kinds of thorny problems out there in the world and this president is going to have to deliver. How are the media going to cover it?
MILLER: Well, I hope they cover with more skepticism than we have done the first time, because there are a great many questions like why is it that the famous shooting down of the -- non-shooting down of the drone story only got released after the election and not before. Eventually the media will have to say wait a minute, why aren't we finding these things out in a timely manner?
THOMAS: It would help if we had a news conference.
PINKERTON: It would help if New York Times followed up in their report that we were negotiating with Iranians, and what -- when the Obama administration denies it, will the New York Times have the courage to defend its own report against the Obama denials?
SCOTT: Up next, on "News Watch," what will the late night comedians do now that they don't have Mitt Romney to kick around anymore?
SCOTT: Last week, we reported on a study showing late night comedians took more shots at Governor Mitt Romney than President Obama and all Democrats combined. Now that the election is over, what did these TV comics had to say?
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COLBERT: What are you people doing here?
COLBERT: Shouldn't you be out celebrating?
COLBERT: Because evidently, you don't listen to anything I say!
I've been bringing you the truth! I worked hard enough for seven years, and how do you repay me? Four more years of hope and change.
JAY LENO, HOST OF "THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO": President Obama on being re-elected president of the United States. So congratulations.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
LENO: But, it turns out; it is not all bad news for the Republicans. I guess it seems depression is covered by ObamaCare.
CONAN O'BRIEN, HOST OF "CONAN": After 18 months, the election is over.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
O'BRIEN: Now, now we can get back to what's really important -- what the hell is going on with Bruce Jenner's face?
CRAIG FERGUSON, "LATE LATE SHOW WITH CRAIG FERGUSON": The long national nightmare is finally over, we have expressed our will at the polls, the results have been tallied, and we have proved once again that American democracy is alive and well, even if Florida was more confused than an old person with an iPhone.
OBAMA IMPERSONATOR: Is this your concession call or you are still busy watching Fox News?
JIMMY FALLON, HOST OF "LATE NIGHT WITH JIMMY FALLON": No, no. This is my concession call, congratulations, blah-blah-blah. You did it.
OBAMA IMPERSONATOR: Hey, hey, hey, now, everything is OK? You seem a little down.
FALLON: It's just I really wanted to be president. I was going to create 12 million jobs.
OBAMA IMPERSONATOR: Well, look, look, buck up. You created one job -- except it was for me.
FALLON: All right. Very funny, you got me. You know, I can laugh at myself. Ha-ha-ha.
OBAMA IMPERSONATOR: And by the way, how's Paul Ryan taking this whole thing?
FALLON: Not good.
FALLON: He just ripped apart a Bowflex machine with his bare hands. How about Biden? Is he celebrating?
OBAMA IMPERSONATOR: Oh, yeah, yeah, right now he’s playing naked Twister with Diane Sawyer and Chris Matthews.
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SCOTT: And when Mr. Biden is done with that game of Twister, we hear that he'll be making a cameo appearance on the NBC sitcom, "Parks and Recreation".
That's a wrap on "News Watch" for this week. Thanks to Judy Miller, Jim Pinkerton, Cal Thomas and Kirsten Powers. I'm Jon Scott, thanks for watching; keep it right here on Fox News Channel. We'll see you again next week with another edition of "Fox News Watch."
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